Tuesday, January 20, 2009
Cry Fucking Harder, Bill
Former Weather Underground terrorist denied entry to Canada
In a blog post on National Post Full Comment, Stephen Taylor brings us the tale of Bill Ayers -- the former Weather Underground terrorist now famed for his associations with now-US President Barack Obama -- being denied entry into Canada.
“It seems very arbitrary,” Ayers complained. “The border agent said I had a conviction for a felony from 1969. I have several arrests for misdemeanours, but not for felonies.”
Not that he hasn't committed felonies. By his own admission, he's done that.
"I don't regret setting bombs," Ayers told the New York Times (on 9/11, no less!). "I feel we didn't do enough."
It may come as a shock to Bill Ayers that known terrorists are not allowed it Canada. It shouldn't.
Other bloggers writing on this topic:
Kevin's Woodshed - "Bordering on the Insane"
The Reaction - "Canada Denies Entry to Ayers"
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For all of the Bill Ayers and Cat Stevenses (or Yussef Islams, if you like), I wonder how many people with no records of terrorist involvement, but malicious intent nonetheless, are admitted to our respective countries? Do you know of any estimates, or research done in this vein?
ReplyDeleteProbably quite a few, mostly because our respective countries don't take domestic terrorism seriously enough.
ReplyDeleteFor example, anyone known to be involved in the KKK should not be allowed to cross the 49th parallel.
PR: Probably quite a few, mostly because our respective countries don't take domestic terrorism seriously enough.
ReplyDeleteI find that a little hard to believe, if we're not allowing people like Cat Stevens and Bill Ayers across the borders
PR: For example, anyone known to be involved in the KKK should not be allowed to cross the 49th parallel.
Are ideologies prohibited in Canada? For example, do you have laws as in Europe prohibiting Holocaust denial?
We have hate speech laws that are sometimes applied to holocaust deniers.
ReplyDeleteIdeology is not prohibited in Canada. It's as pervasive as it is anywhere else in the world.
Is there a specific reason why you ask?
PR: Ideology is not prohibited in Canada. It's as pervasive as it is anywhere else in the world.
ReplyDeleteIs there a specific reason why you ask?
What other grounds would you have for prohibiting KKK members from entering the country? They no longer engage in the domestic terrorism that they engaged in before the 1960's. There are plenty of members of the KKK who have never engaged in such things, so simply being a part of such an organization seems a bit of a shady reason to deny one entry into the country. (Likewise, simply being a member of "Weather Underground" wouldn't be a damnable offense.)
If, however, you have laws in place about racist/hate speech, then there would seem to be some grounds for denying them entrance, although it seems like such infractions shouldn't be felonies. But I don't know.
But that isn't true, Bill. There are still plenty of terrorist incidents being perpetrated by the KKK. Like this one.
ReplyDeleteOn top of that, the American KKK and other racial militant groups have collaborated with Canadian racial militant groups over the past twenty years, and even today.
If a known member of the KKK -- and one thing I'll add as a caveat is that we don't know who all their members are -- is coming to Canada, there's a pretty good chance it's for those purposes.
Bill Ayers is a different example. Bill Ayers himself has committed acts of armed militance against his own government, admits to them, and actually wishes he had done more.
So we don't allow him over the border. I don't care how long ago it was, either.
Bill Ayers doesn't deserve the right to be here. If I blew stuff up and wished I had blown more up; I'm pretty sure I wouldn't expect Canada to welcome me with open arms.
ReplyDeleteAs for the KKK... If it was up to me (which, lucky for them it isn't) I'd put lock 'em, all of them, just for belonging and that would be the last we'd see of them.
I personally think locking them all up just for being in the KKK is a little extreme.
ReplyDeleteHowever, burn one single cross, and I say we put them away for as long as the law allows.
"I personally think locking them all up just for being in the KKK is a little extreme."
ReplyDeleteYou're right... sorry I got carried away there for a second.
"However, burn one single cross, and I say we put them away for as long as the law allows."
I concur.
I knew you would.
ReplyDeleteThere are some things that proper-thinking conservatives and proper-thinking liberals have to agree on.
I think this is one of them.