tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149446.post6841570362863046809..comments2023-10-10T10:34:10.843-06:00Comments on The Nexus of Assholery: Harper Needs a Better ExplanationPatrick Rosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04592482865332628189noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149446.post-85499677493375897872010-01-12T23:25:06.699-07:002010-01-12T23:25:06.699-07:00Libby, I invite you to translate this. It's fr...Libby, I invite you to translate <a href="http://www.cepes.uqam.ca/spip.php?article478" rel="nofollow">this</a>. It's from the April 28, 2007 edition of <i>La Presse</i>.<br /><br /><a href="http://translate.google.ca/#" rel="nofollow">I'll make this <i>so</i> easy for you</a>.<br /><br />Read it and weep.Patrick Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04592482865332628189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149446.post-89466731861494295032010-01-12T23:12:12.449-07:002010-01-12T23:12:12.449-07:00"It is still not about the length of the pror..."<i>It is still not about the length of the prorogue and it is still not about prison guards in another country.</i>"<br /><br />Conveniently, no one here said anything about the length of the proroguement. Thanks for playing.<br /><br />"<i>It is about the possible coverup of complicity in war crimes by the highest levels of our government.</i>"<br /><br />I'm sure you'd like everyone to honestly believe that.<br /><br />"<i>The only ones politicizing this are the BTs and the CPC.</i>"<br /><br />Non-fucking-sense.<br /><br />"<i>What is disgusting is you continue to blame others and hope that it makes the current government's reprehensible conduct ok. The Liberals were not in power when the repeated and persistent reports were made. The Liberals were not in power when these reports were ignored. The Liberals were not in power when the orders went out to stop sending the reports. The Liberals were not in power when the government refused to release the uncensored reports.</i>"<br /><br />Perhaps to you, these things would be enough.<br /><br />But the <a href="http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2010/01/facts-previous-liberal-government-and.html" rel="nofollow">Liberal government ignored warnings from diplomats that torture was prevalent in Afghan prisons</a>.<br /><br />Moreover, they went ahead and signed the prisoner transfer agreement <i>that is responsible for this in the first place</i>.<br /><br />So, Libby, let's compare the Conservative Party response to the torture issue to the Liberal Party response.<br /><br />Conservative government receives credible reports of prisoner torture -- they rescind prison transfer agreement, re-negotiate one that increases the level of Canadian oversight.<br /><br />Liberal government receives credible reports of prisoner torture -- they say "fuck it", sign a prisoner transfer agreement that gives Canadian soldiers insufficient oversight of the treatment of transferred prisoners.<br /><br />The difference between the two is that the Liberal Party has attempted to make this a partisan issue, where as the Tories haven't.Patrick Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04592482865332628189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149446.post-14219924860532845602010-01-12T22:45:22.386-07:002010-01-12T22:45:22.386-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829602743012198875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149446.post-62231355320736782602010-01-12T22:17:19.220-07:002010-01-12T22:17:19.220-07:00God forbid that the Canadian government not sit st...<i>God forbid that the Canadian government not sit still for questioning about something that prison guards in another country did</i>.<br />It is still not about the length of the prorogue and it is still not about prison guards in another country. It is about the possible coverup of complicity in war crimes by the highest levels of our government.<br /><br /><i>It's pretty disgusting the way that the opposition parties -- especially the Liberal Party, who are directly and solely responsible for this state of affairs -- have attempted to partisanize this affair</i>.<br />The only ones politicizing this are the BTs and the CPC. These are the same people who call anyone who questions the government a traitor. Save your fake disgust for The Hague. What is disgusting is you continue to blame others and hope that it makes the current government's reprehensible conduct ok. The Liberals were not in power when the repeated and persistent reports were made. The Liberals were not in power when these reports were ignored. The Liberals were not in power when the orders went out to stop sending the reports. The Liberals were not in power when the government refused to release the uncensored reports.<br /><br /><br /><i>God knows we don't expect any better of them -- or from you</i>.<br />Poor baby.<br /><br /><i>(And by the way, Libby, I'm the one who parts out awards around these parts.</i>)<br />Your self congratulation is exceeded only by your self linking on other blogs.liberal supporterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01129945625510633921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149446.post-34222464646361058242010-01-12T20:18:43.501-07:002010-01-12T20:18:43.501-07:00Pff.
God forbid that the Canadian government not ...Pff.<br /><br />God forbid that the Canadian government not sit still for questioning about something that prison guards <i>in another country</i> did.<br /><br />It's pretty disgusting the way that the opposition parties -- especially the Liberal Party, who are directly and solely responsible for this state of affairs -- have attempted to partisanize this affair.<br /><br />God knows we don't expect any better of them -- or from you.<br /><br />(And by the way, Libby, <i>I'm</i> the one who parts out awards around these parts.)Patrick Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04592482865332628189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149446.post-66399164996925310142010-01-12T18:13:27.367-07:002010-01-12T18:13:27.367-07:00Shutting down the torture questioning is the cover...Shutting down the torture questioning is the coverup. You can deny it all you want, and say "everything's a cover up" like it's some conspiracy theory, wave calendars around, but it's all about shutting down those embarrassing questions. For some reason, you said that in your post, but when I agreed you reflexively decided it's now bad. Make up your mind.<br /><br />Time will tell if this is the tipping point. A lot of people are fed up with the lies and obfuscation. Lacking a charismatic leader, the CPC may go the way of the Martin Liberals due to the public being fed up just as they were then. More likely they will go the way of the Mulroney PCs.<br /><br />Oh yes, congratulations on winning the "first to use ad hominem" award for this thread. Even though you always win that, each new win is as fresh as the first.liberal supporterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01129945625510633921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149446.post-43465428907491177852010-01-12T17:55:51.699-07:002010-01-12T17:55:51.699-07:00Right, Libby. It's all just a big coverup.
Th...Right, Libby. It's all just a big coverup.<br /><br />There's no economic recession -- no economic program to prepare, it's all about covering up a non-story!<br /><br />Sheesh. Remember when I talked about Canadians with principled opposition to the proroguement of Parliament?<br /><br />Libby isn't one of them.Patrick Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04592482865332628189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149446.post-46862347489717333022010-01-12T16:03:19.871-07:002010-01-12T16:03:19.871-07:00Great post, I don't think the PM can justify t...Great post, I don't think the PM can justify to the media, opposition when they report that parliament is closed for 2-3 months.<br /><br />I am confident those who are using tyrant, despot will never be satisfied with anything this government does. The PM will be judged by his results in the next election.<br /><br />Will he be punished for the twenty scandals pushed by our media, opposition in 2009?<br /><br />I am thinking this budget will force the coalition parties out in the open again. The warning signs of NO new spending and return to tackle the deficit means no payola largesse for the opposition to hide behind. What possible reasons could they possibly support this right wing party? What politicial party will suppport the CPC in 2010?CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149446.post-64439459515774944872010-01-12T12:44:04.633-07:002010-01-12T12:44:04.633-07:00For a "master strategist" Harper seems t...For a "master strategist" Harper seems to follow the Yasser Arafat "strategy" of continually snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Look how often Obama admits to screwups, and it doesn't seem to be hurting him. Only the hard core Cheneyites would claim admitting the security apparatus failed for the underwear bomber is somehow endangering America.<br />Over at hunterland, they try to make it about "the left says proroguing is too long a holiday" and are now engaging in tedious calendar counting to make that case. When really it's about the coverup. Remember Clinton? His people tried to make it about the right wing being angry about someone getting a blowjob, when of course it was really about the fact he lied about it. "It's the coverup, stupid".<br />All the claims that having a discussion here about the details of the mission somehow emboldens the terrorists there is bogus. In fact we are now showing the terrorists not to fear a democracy. Don't worry about debate and pesky dissent. Just play along, and when you get enough power you too can act like a tyrant.liberal supporterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01129945625510633921noreply@blogger.com