tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149446.post5378064015993820162..comments2023-10-10T10:34:10.843-06:00Comments on The Nexus of Assholery: There Are Plenty of Good Reasons to Celebrate Darwin DayPatrick Rosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04592482865332628189noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149446.post-45055952699866148002009-02-19T00:06:00.000-07:002009-02-19T00:06:00.000-07:00I'm going to be brief, since I am typing this on m...I'm going to be brief, since I am typing this on my phone.<BR/><BR/>I think you are misinterpreting my position (l probably wasn't very clear). I agree with what you say, my point is that ID sees complexity and assumes that that is proof of a creator/designer. Evolution does not.Scruffy Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09576996151807188873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149446.post-51724973929710157432009-02-16T14:46:00.000-07:002009-02-16T14:46:00.000-07:00Not according to my readings of ID research.Accord...Not according to my readings of ID research.<BR/><BR/>According to what I understand about Intelligent Design research, ID researchers are applying engineering principles to cellular biology in order to find evidence of a designer.<BR/><BR/>Which, if you ask me, doesn't logically make an over abundance of sense. After all, most of the things we've learned about engineering we've learned by observing them in nature.<BR/><BR/>The argument that the principles we use in design is evidence of a designer simply doesn't make sense when one considers that we derived those principles from nature in the first place.<BR/><BR/>This is just an elaboration on my earlier point: that if we agree that God used evolution to create life, then God would very much be life's intelligent designer.<BR/><BR/>I don't believe in Intelligent Design -- nor do I believe in Creationism -- so I couldn't personally accept either proposition.Patrick Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04592482865332628189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149446.post-86622974556010269912009-02-16T03:06:00.000-07:002009-02-16T03:06:00.000-07:00You could possibly argue that in the most general ...You could possibly argue that in the most general definition of intelligent design what I sated above would qualify, but I think we both know that ID proponents are arguing for something else entirely... aka something very much akin to creationism as the Dover trial made clear.Scruffy Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09576996151807188873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149446.post-59857179333355874042009-02-16T01:13:00.000-07:002009-02-16T01:13:00.000-07:00Well, technically, Dan isn't that what intelligent...Well, technically, Dan isn't that what intelligent design really suggests?Patrick Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04592482865332628189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149446.post-47249266696781795432009-02-15T17:08:00.000-07:002009-02-15T17:08:00.000-07:00even the current pope (as well as the last one) ac...even the current pope (as well as the last one) accepts evolution, so obviously the theory of evolution says nothing about the existence of god.<BR/><BR/>In fact all Evolution says is that IF god exists and IF he created man, then he almost certainly did so through evolution.Scruffy Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09576996151807188873noreply@blogger.com